1 00:00:12,610 --> 00:00:10,310 I had a pretty liberal education in the 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:12,620 sensitive but exposed to many things 3 00:00:17,029 --> 00:00:14,610 science was the main thing you got 4 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:17,039 exposed to in my early life from my 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:20,369 father's side my mother is is a Roman 6 00:00:25,910 --> 00:00:23,130 Catholic so I also got exposure to 7 00:00:28,609 --> 00:00:25,920 religious literature religious symbolism 8 00:00:30,919 --> 00:00:28,619 I was never forced to participate I 9 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:30,929 didn't go to Sunday School and didn't do 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:33,510 any of the things that a normal Catholic 11 00:00:39,619 --> 00:00:35,690 child is supposed to go through but 12 00:00:42,139 --> 00:00:39,629 about exposure to it without pressure 13 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:42,149 and without prejudice either but by 14 00:00:48,020 --> 00:00:44,399 choice as I grew up as I went to 15 00:00:51,110 --> 00:00:48,030 university at 17 i I didn't maintain an 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:51,120 interest in religion it did at least a 17 00:00:56,090 --> 00:00:53,850 self-reflective level it didn't mean 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:56,100 much to me I was too involved in science 19 00:01:01,510 --> 00:00:58,890 and technology to have a continuing 20 00:01:04,729 --> 00:01:01,520 interest in that what did remain though 21 00:01:07,370 --> 00:01:04,739 was an interest in Europe's medieval 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:07,380 churches like Colin's Cathedral here 23 00:01:12,109 --> 00:01:09,810 behind me an enormous church which took 24 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:12,119 the over 600 years to build and started 25 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:14,960 in the 13th century and I used to visit 26 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:18,479 displaces with the excuse at least with 27 00:01:22,039 --> 00:01:20,400 the narrative I had within my own mind 28 00:01:23,870 --> 00:01:22,049 that I was interested in the 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:23,880 architecture and I would go to these 30 00:01:27,260 --> 00:01:25,290 places and see the faithful in prayer 31 00:01:30,590 --> 00:01:27,270 and this is a story I tell in the book 32 00:01:32,569 --> 00:01:30,600 modern allegory and I would wonder how 33 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:32,579 these otherwise rational people could 34 00:01:36,830 --> 00:01:34,890 reconcile the reason with their 35 00:01:38,749 --> 00:01:36,840 religious faith it was always a question 36 00:01:40,850 --> 00:01:38,759 in the foreground of my mind when I 37 00:01:44,810 --> 00:01:40,860 would go to churches which I out do 38 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:44,820 often and then at some point not so long 39 00:01:51,469 --> 00:01:48,810 ago in my mid to late 30s I had an 40 00:01:54,710 --> 00:01:51,479 epiphany in that very cathedral there I 41 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:54,720 was inside with no specific agenda no no 42 00:01:57,950 --> 00:01:56,490 special reason for being there just 43 00:01:59,290 --> 00:01:57,960 enjoying the vibe of that place and 44 00:02:02,230 --> 00:01:59,300 joined the building 45 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:02,240 I was looking at a large crucifix right 46 00:02:08,370 --> 00:02:04,610 above the shrine of the three things for 47 00:02:10,660 --> 00:02:08,380 which Collins cathedral is world famous 48 00:02:12,820 --> 00:02:10,670 it's something happened to me I 49 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:12,830 experienced the kind of a shift in 50 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:15,890 perspective as if I had been transported 51 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:19,310 to another cognitive space it was not an 52 00:02:24,010 --> 00:02:22,370 intellectual thing it was an insight of 53 00:02:26,860 --> 00:02:24,020 understanding that they couldn't put in 54 00:02:29,650 --> 00:02:26,870 words but the implication of that inside 55 00:02:31,690 --> 00:02:29,660 as I described in the book was that it 56 00:02:35,170 --> 00:02:31,700 became very clear to me why the 57 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:35,180 Christian myth is what it is it couldn't 58 00:02:41,050 --> 00:02:37,610 be anything else I understood it and 59 00:02:44,020 --> 00:02:41,060 that insight sort of validated it and at 60 00:02:46,090 --> 00:02:44,030 the same time it shaped rated to pieces 61 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:46,100 because I understood that what the 62 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:49,130 religious myth was pointing to in fact 63 00:02:54,970 --> 00:02:52,690 had nothing to do with the literal 64 00:02:57,430 --> 00:02:54,980 explanation the literal description of 65 00:03:00,160 --> 00:02:57,440 the myth or the literal interpretation 66 00:03:02,350 --> 00:03:00,170 of its symbols so it was an epiphany 67 00:03:06,850 --> 00:03:02,360 that at the same time confirmed and 68 00:03:08,860 --> 00:03:06,860 shattered the Christian myth to me in my 69 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:08,870 understanding of religion my felt